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COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE RECEIVED
MAR 3 1 2003
426 W. CEDAR ST,
March 27, 2003
Debbera Coker
Mason County Building Department
PO Box 186
Shelton, WA 98584
Dear Debbera,
Thank you for your correspondence in regards to the permit applications at the Blue Heron
Condominiums in Union.
We are ready for the final inspection on the manufactured home (Permit# BLD 2001-00100)
and the Spa(permit# COM2000-00086). Please contact David Brandt, the resident manager
at the Blue Heron(360-898-3123)to schedule a final inspection. We are working to prepare
the information that you requested for the other permits referenced in your correspondence of
3/7/03. We will forward that information to you as soon as it becomes available.
I have also enclosed copies of the geotechnical reports that you requested. These reports
address the issues of ground water and soil movement. We have acted on several of the
recommendations made by Kegel Engineering in his report and we are continuing to address
the problem.
If you should have any questions or need additional information at this time, please contact
me at your convenience.
Sincerely,
Robert J. Macht
Director,
Property Management Division
400 WARREN AVENUE • SUITE 450 • BREMERTON,WASHINGTON 98337-1479 • (360) 479-6900 • FAx(360) 479-5499 • (800) 479-6903
Established 1979
Kegel Engineering CIVIL ENGINEERING•LAND SURVEYING•CONSULTING
(360) 876-0500
835 KEGEL LANE S.E. • PORT ORCHARD, WA 98367
September 11, 2002
Bob Macht
Bradley Scott, Inc.
400 Warren Avenue—Suite 450
Bremerton, WA 98337-1408
Re: Blue Heron Condos—Hood Canal
Storm Drainage
Dear Mr. Macht:
Per your request, I have performed two site inspections of the above noted project.
The first inspection was in response to a report prepared by Allen L. Hart, geologist,
dated May 20, 2002. The second inspection was in conjunction with an onsite meeting
with yourself and the Mason County Code Enforcement/Building Inspection officer, Mr.
Larry Waters.
The initial inspection confirmed substantial storm runoff problems on the patio concrete
slabs for several of the units. This situation is probably a major contributor to the crawl
space moisture problems, as the runoff water drains towards the buildings. In addition, it
was noted that many of the downspout drains were not connected to the appropriate
discharge pipe systems. Several of the slabs are broken, which allows water to penetrate
the cracks and migrate towards the crawl space of the units. The initial inspection did
not reveal any apparent mass soil movement in the area.
After further telephone conversations with yourself and also with Mr. Waters, it was
determined that an onsite meeting would be appropriate to father discuss the situation.
This second inspection and discussion yielded the same conclusions as the original
inspection. The back patio concrete slabs need to be replaced or repaired to slope and
drain away from the building. The downspout systems need to be connected to the pipe
discharge systems. There was no apparent mass soil movement noted on the site. There
is soil settlement noted around areas that appear to be fill areas next to foundations. This
is probably due to poor or no compaction of soils during construction many years ago. It
is also a contributor to the broken concrete slabs and poor runoff control.
After the second visitation, I consulted with Mr. Hart again to discuss his observations.
He reiterated that he observed no mass soil movement, and has subsequently provided a
memo stating the same. (see attached copy of memo)
Recommendations:
During our walk around the site, we discussed my opinions as to the problems and how to
proceed to prepare a remedy. The following is the initial list of recommended
procedures:
1. Remove the broken concrete slabs and replace with a new slab upon firmly
compacted soil and constructed to slope away from condo units.
2. Install additional catch basins to intercept slab runoff and install additional pipe to
discharge to the downspout drainage system.
3. Employ a rotor-rooter type service to "clean" drain lines, to "T.V." drain lines and
to provide an "electronic locate" of the entire storm drainage system.
4. Perform a physical feature and "as-built" drain line survey of site. Prepare an
engineering drawing, to an appropriate scale, of the as-built survey.
5. Continue repairing the ventilation and rotten wood enclosures for the crawl spaces.
After the drainage system has been inspected and a mapped, additional engineering
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recommendations and design for corrective measures can be performed.
This has been a brief overview of my findings and recommendations. I also understand
that several of the recommendations have been initiated on your part.
Please advise when the drainage system locations have been completed.
Si erely,
Frederick A. Kegel, P.E., P.L.S.
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This memo is drafted at your request and follows our several conversations regarding the reported
possible sod movement (landsiIdling)at the referenced site.
Based on observations made during my sae visit on May 14, 2002, a is my opinion that there Is no
evidence of ongoing soil movement occuntng nor is there evidence of any past soil movement at the
site. The trees are generally straight and there is no obvious distress to pavements, fbundatkm or
subsuftce walls as would be anticipaled with soil movement.
As we have disAissed, the greatest concern, which 1 observed, are related to overall spe drainage,
landscape grades, control and disposal of storm runoff, and building mairrtenanoe and ventgation None
of which would Indlcde possibie soil moAwrwtt.
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1720 North Oakes, Tacoma, Washington 98406
(253) 752-8963
May 20, 2002 Project No. 0205031
Robert Macht
Bradley Scott Real Estate, Inc.
400 Warren Avenue, Suite 450
Bremerton, Washington 98337
Blue Heron Resort Condominium
6520 East State Route 106
Union, Washington
This letter is prepared at your request and follows our meeting at the referenced site on May 14, 2002 and
serves to summarize my comments made at that time. The purpose of our meeting was to briefly review site
moisture, ground, and storm water conditions and recommend possible courses of action to resolve the
reported water and moisture problems. As I told you at the start of our meeting, the cause(s)of water and
moisture problems are frequently elusive and if identified multi-sourced, and difficult and costly to rectify.
Similarly, if the problem is studied in detail, including installation of monitoring wells with well observations
being carried out over a period of months (seasons), it is costly and the end result is not uncommonly
inconclusive and the effect of drainage recommendations problematic.
Based on information provided by the resident manager and you, I strongly suspect that the identified moisture
and water problems are multi-sourced and that there is some interbedding of fine-grained site soils with those
of a coarser grained, more permeable nature. Should this be the actual case it may not be possible or practical
to intercept water flows with any single system. As we discussed present ditch near the extra parking area and
resident manager's residence is too shallow to have anything but a limited effect on storm water flows.
Outlined below are two basic courses of action, which may be taken at this point in an effort to deal with the
water and moisture problems. However, as I told you one of the first things that should be done is to have a
topographic survey of the property completed at a two-foot contour interval. This mapping would give you a
better picture site highs and lows and potential "natural"drainage paths. This drawing should also show the
elevation of crawl space areas and underground utility routes. This drawing could also give you a better
picture of seeps and water levels across the property and aid in developing a drainage plan.
Project No 0205031
Blue Heron Condominium
May 20, 2002
Page No. 2
If you were to elect to have a study completed in an attempt to define seepage zones and recommend various
means of correcting the problem(Note my comment in the first paragraph of this letter regarding studies.)a
number of borings would be drilled across the site with soil samples taken for laboratory testing and
observation wells installed. I would that anticipate w p t the e wells
s would be monitored several times a month,
particularly during the wet season, and crawl space areas periodically inspected. The data would be reviewed
and analyzed and recommendations made. A rough estimate for such a study might be on the order of$30,000
t0 $38,000.
Realizing that any report-ecommendations may or may not work you could try several measures without
expending the time and cost of a study. As we discussed, most of the following measures are of the type that
could possibly be presented as report recommendations. Do not expect that any single item below will solve
the present water and moisture problems rather taken together they may work to mitigate the problem but only
locally resolve the problem.
• Defining building 1 and highway 106 as being on the west end of the property. Construct a
French or curtain drain across the west, north and south sides of the property. To have a
reasonable chance to be effective I would anticipate that across the west end of the property
the drain would be on the order of six to eight feet in depth. If possible this depth should be
maintained down the north and south sides of the property with the system discharging to
daylight or into the storm drain system. Using the topographic map it may be found that the
six to eight foot deep starting depth does not provide drainage across the entire compound.
Should this be the case it may be desirable to add additional north-south lines across the
property at appropriate depth locations.
It should be noted that this drain system might not intercept water showing up as springs or
seeps below some of the units. If this is the case you should anticipate the need to construct
sump systems as outlined below.
• Check all down spout piping to assure that it is not perforated pipe. Replace all perforated
pipe with solid pipe and confirm that all down spouts discharge into the storm drain system.
• Confirm that dry wells are not in use on the property.
• Provide good, unobstructed,cross ventilation in all crawl space areas. Ventilation should be
maintained the year around.
Allen L Hart Engineering Geologist 1720 North Oakes,Tacoma,Washington 98406
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Project No 0205031
Blue Heron Condominium
May 20, 2002
Page No. 3
• Yard drains should be provided in areas where water accumulates in grassed or landscaped
areas. Yard drain piping should be extended to discharge into the storm drain system.
• Soil, landscaping, walkways and pavements should be sloped to drain away from the structure
for a distance of at least five feet.
• All pavement areas should be benned or curbed such that storm runoff is intercepted,
collected and tight-lined into the storm drainage system.
• Inspect all water transport systems, i.e., water supply the project, septic system piping, and
landscape watering systems, to assure that there are no leaks.
• Grade all crawl space areas to drain to a sump. The entire space could be graded to drain or
channels leading to the sump cut. If a fairly deep su,np is constructed and lined with a
perforated pipe, perforated drum, or similar system it may be possible to reduce the water
level to some depth below the crawl space ground surface and aid in drying the crawl space
area. Water from the sump should be tight-lined into the storm drain system. Depending on
grades at some locations it may be possible to gravity drain from the sump under the building
foundation or through the stem wall into the storm drain. NOTE: If a gravity drain is used,
depending on the construction of the storm drainage system and outfall location it may be
desirable to screen or otherwise block the pipe to prevent vermin from accessing the crawl
space via the sump discharge pipe.
• Construction of French or curtain drains, extending to no less than a foot below footing level,
on the up slope side of the structures could aid in intercepting some of the water entering the
crawl space area. Piping in the drain itself should be perforated but away from the building
and extending to the storm drain system pipe should be solid.
I hope that the foregoing comments are of assistance; if I may be of additional service, please feel free to call
my office.
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Englneedng Geologist
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Allen L Hart Engineering Geologist 1720 North Oakes,Tacoma,Washington 98406