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Friday, September 10,2004
Subject: Legal Definitions for Recreational Park Trailers
To Whom It May Concern:
Enclosed are quotations from the various national definitions used for Recreational Park Trailers
with information detailing how these definitions were established and who uses them. These
definitions are taken from the federal laws and regulations promulgated by HUD;the nationally
recognized ANSI Standards adopted by the RPTIA and by state agencies of government; and in the
definition found in the bylaws of the RPTIA-the national trade association which represents the
manufacturers and suppliers and the state or national associations who primarily represent the RV
dealers and RV park owners. To assist you in identifying the actual law,regulation or the by-laws,
the quoted copy has been printed in italics. It is our hope that you will find this information
helpful. While these definitions are not quite identical,they are very close in content.
FEDERAL LAW
This definition of a manufactured home comes from the federal law-Title IV The National
Manufacturer Housing Construction and Safety Standards Act of 1974-as amended,which
requires that all manufactured homes be constructed in accordance with construction requirements
promulgated by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development(HUD).
The definition for a manufactured home in the federal law as it exists today is found under Section
603 (6)of the law. It is quoted below:
"Manufactured Home"means a structure transportable in one or more sections, which in the
traveling mode, is eight body feet or more in width or forty body feet or more in length, or when
erected on sight, is three hundred twenty or more square feet, and which is built on a permanent
chassis and designed to be used as a dwelling with or without a permanent foundation when
connected to the required utilities, and includes the plumbing, heating, air conditioning and
electrical systems contained therein;except that such term shall include any structure which meets
all the requirements of this paragraph except the size requirements and with respect to which the
manufacturer,voluntarily files a certification required by the secretary and complies with the
standards established under this title,
The manufactured housing definition stipulated in this law includes most recreational park trailers
as it is inclusive of all units that exceed 320 square feet when erected on site. However,when the
law was last amended by Congress in October of 1980,the House and Senate versions of the Bill
had taken different positions over the minimum size required for a unit to be considered a
manufactured home. The Senate version stated that 400 square feet should be the threshold while
the House called for a smaller 320 square feet. To resolve these differences a congressional
conference committee was convened. The conference committee determined that the law should be
passed using the 320 square feet minimum size as was proposed by the House. At the same time
however,the conference committee also stated that-"The Secretary of HUD was to consider
differing, more flexible standards for smaller Manufactured Homes(such as park trailers) whose
square footage is between 320 and 400 square feet and are designed to be frequently
transported". (Directions given to an agency of the federal government found in a conference
committee report are considered to have almost the same force as the law when an agency is setting
regulations to implement the law.)
Since the passage of this law, HUD determined not to set standards specifically adapted for these
structures but rather has issued a series of regulatory actions(with superseding qualifying
definitions)exempting the manufacturers of these 320-400 square foot recreation vehicles"Park
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Models" from meeting the Manufactured Housing Standard. Previous editions of this HUD
regulation allowing for the exemption of Recreational Park Trailers required that these products be
constructed of such a width as to not require a special movement permit. Other previous
requirements had called for the inclusion of full self-containment for the park trailers,but both of
these requirements are no longer in the regulation.
The current HUD regulation,which was put in place on June 22, 1982,reads as follows:
Part 3282.8 Applicability
(g)Recreational vehicles: Recreational Vehicles are not subject to this Part, Part 3280, or
Part 3283. A recreational vehicle is a vehicle which is: (1)built on a single chassis; (2) 400
square feet or less when measured at the largest horizontal projections; (3)self propelled or
permanently towable by a light duty truck; and(4)designed primarily not to be used as a
permanent dwelling but as temporary living quarters for recreational, camping, travel, or
seasonal use.
It should also be noted,when Congress passed this law they made it preemptive of all state and
local laws, effectively barring any state or local unit of government from passing more stringent
requirements. HUD also states that they retain the authority to promulgate a unique and separate
standard for recreational park trailers should they deem such a standard to be necessary and
appropriate.
American National Standard Institute-Standard A119.5 for Recreational Park Trailers
The nationally recognized consensus standard which stipulates the minimum construction
requirements for building a recreational park trailer was created under the auspices of the American
National Standard Institute-and has been published as ANSI Standard A119.5 for Recreational
Park Trailers. The current edition was promulgated in 1998 using the accredited canvass method.
This standard covers over 500 safety requirements for recreational park trailer construction.
Fourteen states have adopted the ANSI A119.5 Standard and require that all units sold in these
states be constructed to meet this standard.
The definition used in the A119.5 Recreational Park Trailer Standard is as follows:
Recreational Park Trailer: A trailer type unit that is primarily designed to provide
temporary living quarters for recreational, camping, travel or seasonal use, that meets the
following criteria:
(a) Built on a single chassis mounted on wheels.
(b) Having a gross trailer area not exceeding 400 square feet(37.15 sq. m) in the set-up
mode.
(c) Certified by the manufacturer as complying with ANSI A119.5
Recreational Park Trailer Industry Association,Inc.
The national association which represents 95%of all Recreational Park Trailer production in the
United States has defined Recreational Park Trailers in their bylaws as:
A "Recreational Park Trailer is a recreation vehicle that is primarily designed to provide.
temporary living quarters for recreation, camping or seasonal use. Built on a single chassis
mounted on wheels which has a gross trailer area not exceeding 400 square feet in the set-up
mode and is certified by the manufacturer as complying with ANSI A 119.5.
The Association also mandates that its manufacturing members submit a written public pledge that
as members of the RPTIA their production of recreational park trailers will be in conformance with
the A 119.5 Standard. The Association conducts frequent unannounced inspections at the
manufacturers place of production using qualified third-party inspection agencies. Members who
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fail to maintain their pledge of A119.5 compliance are subject to dismissal from the Association. A
brochure which describes this Standards program in greater detail is enclosed.
Although these three definitions are not exact duplicates they all basically cover the key issues in
the same way.
In summary,Recreational Park Trailers are Recreation Vehicles designed and intended to be used
for recreational,camping and seasonal use. These units are sold by Recreational Vehicle dealers
who are licensed to sell RVs. Recreational Park Trailers are primarily used by their owners as
seasonal dwellings which are typically sited in RV parks and campground resorts on sites that are
owned, rented or leased and are then occupied by their owners as seasonal or vacation dwellings.
We hope that this information is of value but if you need additional clarification,the RPTIA will be
available to assist you. Please don't hesitate to contact us.
Sincerely,
W. R. "Bill" Garpow
Executive Director
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To Kell McAboy Via Email&Fax#360-427-8425
From Darin Barry Cel 360-927-1105
Robin Hood Village
Date June 3,2006
Kell,Please accept my invitation to call me directly on issues regarding Robin Hood
Village in the future. I would also appreciate a call to Set appointments with me before
you visit. I can always be reached by Cel phone and if you get my message I will return
your call the same day. (Cel 360-927-1105). I'm sure your visits are intended to help
us improve our Tourism Business and to develop our property in an appropriate way, and
I do understand the importance of understanding and following the County Code. We are
very serious about developing our property to its fullest potential, and we would like to
work on developing a strong relationship with you an i the County so that we can work
together in a positive fashion.
In an effort to clear up some of the issues that came I of your last visit here are a few
notes:
The"Road"that you accused Ned Kjeldgaard(V. P. Operations)of building has been
there for years. You can see it on a map of the property which has been on our website
for years, and you can also see it on some of the pictures attached. In fact not only didn't
we put the road in,we have actually reduced the foot print of the road. Since the road
had 2 access points (which have been there for years)we decided we could do with only
l and end up with more landscaped area for the enjoyment of our guests. That is why
you can see we have torn up a part of the road and planted trees in it's footprint.
Our two new RV's. These are RV's. We are not required to have a permit to have an
RV in an RV park. I would expect that a permit would be required to put an RV on a lot
zoned for Single Family Residence, but we are an RV park-
-The title shows that they are RV's.
-The metal certification on the side certifies them as RV's.
-I've attached an industry slide show which is designed to educate local governments on
these RV's. RPTIA.COM(Recreational Park Trailer Industry Association) site is full of
technical data to show that these are RV's if you would like further information.
The area between the tent sites and the RV Park. This area has been a maintained
landscaped area for years, including the tent sites. I understand that if we were building a
new RV park today that it would be unlikely that we iWould be able to obtain a permit to
build our RV Park the way that it was built. The fact is that these RV sites and the entire
area from the Tent sites to the RV Park have been maintained as a"landscaped area" for
years. There are many pictures to prove this, and it is obvious that the grass has been
mowed and maintained. Pg. 59 of the MSRO tells us that Maintenance and use of
existing landscaped areas within a buffer area ...is an activity which does not require a
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Mason Environmental permit. "Maintenance and use includes mowing,weeding,
trimming, replacement of vegetation types,placing landscaping walls...... I understand
that your associate said that the area"looked like a parking lot". Please understand that
our Forester said that we would need to break up the top layer of ground if we expected
the new trees to grow. The entire area has been re-seeded but it needs time to grow. The
last time you issued a"stop work" order it cost us ove a month by the time we were able
to get the sub-contractor back to finish removing the to
danger trees. I was glad that your
group rescinded the"stop work"order after you undersod that we were within our
rights,and I only hope that we don't have to go through the same process now regarding
the ground vegetation that was under the danger trees. Most of that"vegetation" was
berry bushes, Ivy, Holly, and grass,all of which was maintained with a weed wacker and
a lawn mower on a regular basis. Since we did not remove this vegetation, I'm sure you
are aware that over the next few weeks it will start to grow back. June,July, August, &
September is our busy season,and additional delays would cause significant economic
damage to our business.
Kell,my group is starting to feel as if your group is out to get us and catch us doing
something bad. We are in fact trying to take steps to lesson the future environmental
impact on the stream and the entire property. In fact, as you know I am considering
purchasing the to acres next to Robin Hood so that we could focus our future
development further away from the stream. We asked 1 you some very important
questions last week regarding this opportunity. (I've reattached the memo). If you are
uncomfortable answering the questions,perhaps you could refer me to someone within
the County that could help me.
In addition to the questions regarding density potential and clustering which I outlined in
the previous memo, I would also like to discuss a section of the code titled"Stewardship
Options and Incentives". Open Space Bonus", Open Space Tax Assessment', Density
Credit", and"Conservation Futures"(page 57 & 58)all seem like potential win-win ways
for us to work together to maximize the economic potential for the property while at the
same time maximizing the protection for the Critical �reas. I hope that you will agree
that working together on the big picture will certainly have more productive and further
reaching outcomes.
I'll look forward to a call at your earliest convenience to set up a meeting with you or
whoever you think I would be better referred to.
Thanks
Darin Barry
360-927-1105
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To Robert Fink Via Email & Fax#360-427-8425
Planning Manager, MCCD
From Darin Barry Cel 360-927-1105
Owner, Robin Hood Village URGENT
Date June 7, 2006
Mr. Fink, I understand that my file is on your desk hopefully not causing you any extra grief.
I recently purchased the 15 acres referred to as Robin Hood Village in Union,WA. I am also
contemplating the acquisition of the adjacent 10 acres referred to as the Union Bay Hot Tub Cabins.
After talking with Casey Conquist the executive director of the Chamber of Commerce I drafted and sent
a letter to Lynda Ring Erickson, Tim Sheldon, &Jayni Kaminl (Attached).
I understand from Kell McAboy that the letter on your desk may be asking for me to come in and lay out
the vision so that we can work though your holistic approach to planning which I think is great. As you
can see from my letter to the Commissioners, I am still several weeks away from having a`vision"that I
am willing to commit to.
Since I purchased the initial 15 acres I've just been doing some minor housekeeping,while I take time to
understand the community and come up with a plan for the best use of the property. But I understand that
my"housekeeping"may have caused your staff some stress and concern. Specifically,the removal of the
Danger Trees. Please understand that these trees were pointed out to me the first week I purchased the
property by several people as trees that people had been pointing out to the previous owner for years as
being a hazard. I hired a reputable contractor, did core samples, and you can imagine my shock when a
"stop work"order was posted in the middle of the project_ Tlie contractors left and I had a mess for 3
weeks until I was able to explain the steps that we had taken and your staff finally rescinded the "stop
work" order.
I find myself in a similar situation with the 2 Park Model RV's I recently purchased. Please understand
my surprise that a permit would be required to put an RV in a Mobile Horne&RV park that has allowed
RV's for over 50 years without permits. I know we will come to a positive resolution as I can think of 3
ways and there is probably more to proceed. (I've attached 2 pictures showing the park models in space
#8 & 9 and another picture showing other RV's in the same space#8 	)
1. Permit and place on a space that has historically been used for permanent mobile.
2. County Recognizes them as RV's and place in an RV space without a permit.
3. I have 100 plus legal lots(40 x 100) and will add another 60 lots with the purchase of the hot tub
cabins and we could permit them onto an individual lot.
My simple request is that you please lift the"stop work" order as we work through these options. I
spent$100,000 getting these RV's here so that I could use them to serve Tourists in the busy season
which is upon us. Letting them sit idle will cause a large economic damage that I will not be able to
recoup.
I'm sure there are even more solutions that you and your sta can come up with. If we have not come to
a win-win solution in 90 days you could simply reinstate a stop work order.
I'm traveling this week but would make special arrangements to come and meet with you ASAP if it is
required. I apologize for this being our first communication
Kell McAboy- Re: Robin Hood Village Page 1
From: "darin barry" <darinbarry@hotmail.com>
To: <KeIIM@co.mason.wa.us>
Date: 6/5/2006 7:41:13 PM
Subject: Re: Robin Hood Village
To Kell McAboy, Mason County Community Development, Planner
From Darin Barry, Owner Robin Hood Village
RE Robin Hood Village - Stop Work Orders#1937 ޒ
Date June 5, 2006
Thanks for the note.
I'd like to initiate the appropriate steps to request a re-interpretation of
the code as it pertains to my two new RV's. .
The objective of the code sections you refer to is to prevent an RV park
from turning into low cost housing and/or permanent domiciles. As you know,
I have a mobile home park, and if I wanted to provide permanent domiciles I
would have bought mobile homes and I would have placed them in the Mobile
Home Park. Mobile homes provide a much more economical solution for
permanent living square footage than these RV's which I purchased. These
RV's are not suited for full time living.
It is our full intention to use these brand new RV's for the purpose of
vacation and seasonal dwellings rentals, not as full time domiciles. Our
Cottage business which has provided nightly rentals to Tourists since 1934
has more demand than supply, and the RV's were purchased to allow and
expansion for this Tourism business.
The adding of these two RV's for nightly rentals is being done in
conjunction with a Regional TV Campaign that will be promoting the Hood
Canal and the Cottages at Robin Hood Village every Sunday night on
"Northwest Backroads". This will be an ongoing campaign that will be viewed
in 17,000 homes every Sunday throughout Oregon, Washington, & Idaho. The
RV's have already been rented for most of the month of July and several
other date so a timely resolution here is very important in order to avoid a
large damage to our Tourism business.
I can not imagine that the County Council members would want the staff to
create such a strict enforcement action when the code was clearly not
developed to discourage the growth of a Tourism business. Perhaps a
conversation and a few meetings would be more productive than a "stop work"
order.
I would appreciate it if you could copy this to Tammy Griffey whose name was
on the"stop work"orders.
I would also appreciate if it you could copy this to whoever would be
involved in a review process.
Allan Borden - RV's Page 1
From: Rose Swier
To: Kell McAboy
Date: 11/2/2006 3:28 pm
Subject: RV's
How can I be included in the discussions on planning the new RV ordinance? I want to make sure that
proper solid waste, drinking water and septic issues are being addressed and that there is some language
regarding modifying the RV's. We have several around the county who have installed woodstoves
(building and fire can't enforce because they aren't structures)... and others that have permanent
addresses affixed to the outside of them.... with porches and flower gardens (no longer movable). Most
of these are not located in parks, but are set up on lots in RR5 zoning as permanent structures for living
in year round.
Rose Swier,
Public Health
Environmental Health Specialist III
Mason County Department of Health Services
PO Box 1666
Shelton, WA 98584
(360) 427-9670 ext. 584
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To Kell McAboy Via Email
From Ned Kjeldgaard
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RE Robin Hood Village
Date May 29, 2006
Hi Kell,
On the Park Models in the RV park)we are happy to do whatever we need to do. It was
our understanding that we did not need any permits to put an RV into an existing RV spot
within an existing RV park. We have not created new RV sites here, these RV sites have
been here for years. We understand that if we were to try and create more RV sites we
would of course have to comply wAh the existing set back requirements.
I do need your help on another matter. We are considering purchasing the 10 acres next
to Robin Hood Village (Union Bay Pot Tub Cabins). This property has approximately
60 platted lots (40' x 60') (Union City, Volume 1 of Plats-All of block 92 and the
majority of block 101), many with great views of the Hood Canal. Assuming that we
could organize solutions for water and sewer,what steps would we need to go through
with the planning department in order to place park models or mobile homes on these
lots? I'm assuming that this may be closer to the example you gave of the park model
that just went in on Hwy 106.
Initially we would only want to put'5 or 6 total, but for the long-term we would like to
understand the answers to the following questions:
1- With 60 platted lots what would be the maximum number that we would be able
to put on this property.
2- If we wanted to conserve more green space could we"cluster"the maximum
number into a smaller foot print so that we could leave more open area for
recreation.
Kell, we are working with a 7 day deadline in order to become educated on our options
and make a decision to move forwaid on this acquisition or not.
Thanks for your help.
Ned Ki eldgaard
360-463-6305
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Kell McAboy- Robin Hood Village Page 1
From: "darin barry" <darinbarry@hotmail.com> (.��`'C� I
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To Kell McAboy Via Email
From Ned Kjeldgaard 2`f r5
RE Robin Hood Village
Date May 29, 2006
Hi Kell,
On the Park Models in the RV park we are happy to do whatever we need to do.
It was our understanding that we did not need any permits to put an RV
into an existing RV spot within an existing RV park. We have not created
new RV sites here, these RV sites have been here for years. We understand
that if we were to try and create more RV sites we would of course have to
comply with the existing set back requirements.
I do need your help on another matter. We are considering purchasing the 10
acres next to Robin Hood Village (Union Bay Hot Tub Cabins). This property
has approximately 60 platted lots (40'x 60') (Union City, Volume 1 of Plats
—All of block 92 and the majority of block 101), many with great views of
the Hood Canal. Assuming that we could organize solutions for water and
sewer, what steps would we need to go through with the planning department
in order to place park models or mobile homes on these lots? I'm assuming
that this may be closer to the example you gave of the park model that just
went in on Hwy 106.
Initially we would only want to put 5 or 6 total, but for the long-term we
would like to understand the answers to the following questions:
1- With 60 platted lots what would be the maximum number that we would be
able to put on this property.
2- If we wanted to conserve more green space could we "cluster" the maximum
number into a smaller foot print so that we could leave more open area for
recreation.
Kell, we are working with a 7 day deadline in order to become educated on
our options and make a decision to move forward on this acquisition or not.
Thanks for your help.
Ned Kjeldgaard
360-463-6305
CC: <nedkjeldgaard@hotmail.com>
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From: "darin barry" <darinbarry@hotmail.com>
To: <KeIIM@co.mason.wa.us>
Date: 6/6/2006 7:58:24 AM
Subject: Robin Hood Village- More Info
To Kell McAboy Via Email & Fax
From Darin Barry
Robin Hood Village
RE Stop Work Orders
Date June 6, 2006
Hi Kell, after another night of trying to educate myself on Mason County
Development Code I decided to talk to the old owners who have helped to
clear some things up for me.
Parcel#322325093001 which is comprised of both the upper and lower village
has a land use of"Mobile Home Courts & Parks" as recorded on the Assessors
website. Although I have not been able to find a definition of this
anywhere in the County Code I can tell you that the property has had long
term tenants (over 1 year) in both the upper and lower village for many
years. It is also clear that RV's have also historically stayed in this
"Mobile Home Court& Park"without obtaining a building permit, while Mobile
Homes that are set up as permanent structures have been permitted.
Please remember, all I'm trying to do is add two brand new places for
Tourist to stay when they visit the Hood Canal. And to make sure that dead
trees don't fall on their heads when they are here.
Where does this leave us? Does the historic use that was established well
before the code was written hold any water?
Thanks for helping me work through this.
Darin Barry
360-927-1105
CC: <darinbarry@hotmail.com>, <jmacfern@comcast.net>, <nedkjeldgaard@hotmail.com>
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>From: "Kell McAboy" <KellM@co.mason.wa.us>
>To: "darin barry" <darinbarry@hotmail.com>
>CC: "Robert Fink" <Rdf@co.mason.wa.us>,"Stephanie Pawlawski"
><Stephap@co.mason.wa.us>,"Tam i Griffey"
><Tlg@co.mason.wa.us>,<jmacfern@comcast.net>,<nedkjeldgaard@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Robin Hood Village
>Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 18:03:38 -0700
>Darin,
>Thank you for your contact information. I appreciate your willingness
>to work together in a positive fashion.
>This email is intended to address the issues you raised. Feel free to
>contact me to schedule a meeting if you prefer.
>1 have forwarded the pictures you sent me to our Code Enforcement
>Officer, Stephanie Pawlawski in order to help her determine which areas
>need to be restored.
>Regarding the two new RVs, per the MCDC 1.04.347 Special Provisions.
>RV parks shall comply with the following additional standards:
>A. No recreational vehicle shall remain in the RV park for rental
>purposes or for a time period of more than 120 consecutive days and 180
>days in a 360 day period (this standard applies to new occupants at
>existing mobile home and recreational vehicle parks, and to new mobile
>home and recreational vehicle parks). The RV park management shall
>maintain rental records identifying each RV and registered occupants and
>shall present them to the county on written request. Failure to maintain
>or to present these records on request shall be sufficient grounds to
>rescind the RV park permit.
>Therefore, regardless of whether the Mason County Building Department
>would require a building permit for the two new RVs, they are not
>allowed for rental purposes and shall be removed.
>The 60 platted lots adjacent to the Robin Hood Village is zoned RR2.5
>(Rural Residential 2.5)which would allow mobile homes or park models.
>Standard building setbacks from property lines are 20 feet for side and
>rear yards and 25 feet for front yards. Front and rear yard setbacks may
>be reduced as provided in Section 1.05.034C. to a minimum of 10 feet and
>side yard setbacks may be reduced as provided in Section 1.05.034D. to a
>minimum of 5 feet. Environmental Health Department issues aside, the
>planning department allows one residence per legally established lot, as
>long as you can meet the setbacks as stated above.
>It is recommended that you have a pre-application meeting with all
>County departments if you have plans to develop the property. That way
>all departments are present to address all the issues. The application
>is online at:
>http://www.co.mason.wa.us/forms/Community_Dev/presubmission.pdf
>Again, please feel free to contact me to schedule a meeting if you feel
>that is necessary in addition to the Pre-Application meeting.
>Sincerely,
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To Commissioner Lynda Ring Erickson
Commissioner Tim Sheldon
Commissioner Jayni Kamin
cc. Emmett Dobey
From Darin Barry Cel 360-927-1105
Owner,Robin Hood Village
6780 State Rte. 106
Union, WA
RE Outdated Ordinances regarding RV Parks
Date July 18, 2006
Consumer habits have evolved in RV Park segment of the Tourism industry, and we need
your help to make sure that our County Codes evolve to keep pace.
Here are 2 important trends and associated Tourism opportunities that current County
Codes prevent us from participating in.
1. Home Base/Storage Concept: Whereas in the past an RV owner may keep their
RV under a tarp in their side yard and use it 4 or 5 times per year,the new concept is that
they leave their RV at an RV park they can enjoy year round, enabling them to use it
more often with hassle and expense of hauling. The 4 or 5 times a year when they want
to go for an extended trip they simply go. Without the set-up time and the gas expense
people are encouraged to become"tourist"more often.
Although the intent behind the current County Code is good, it is written in such a way as
the unintended consequences of the language prevent RV park owners from marketing
this concept. Specifically, current County Code prevents an RV from being in an RV
park for more than 180 days in any calendar year. The intention of the code is to prevent
RV parks from being turned into slums and to prevent an RV from being used as a
permanent domicile which it was not designed nor manufactured to be. Perhaps the Code
could be amended to say what it intends, "RV parks shall not allow full time habitation of
RV's."
2. Park Model RV's. (Article attached). For the masses that love the idea of RV'ing
but don't want to buy an RV and maintain an RV the Park Model Concept is perfect.
This is the fastest growing segment of the RV market. Tourists come and pay and stay on
a nightly basis just like a motel room. Great Tourism business,but the way current
County Code is written again prevents this business with unintended consequences of the
language. Code prevents the rental of an RV in an RV park. The 180 day rule above also
conflicts with this concept. Again the intent of the code is to prevent an RV park from
being turned into low cost full time rentals, and to prevent full time occupation of a
vehicle which was not designed nor intended for full time habitation. Again, it would
work if the actual intention was written and then simply require RV parks to maintain
records to satisfy the County.
(9/13/2007) Kell McAboy- RV Park Models Page 1
From: Barbara Adkins
To: Kell McAboy
Date: 9/13/2007 10:13 AM
Subject: RV Park Models
CC: Barbara Robinson; Robert Fink
Kell,
met with Bob and Barbara on Monday and we discussed the RV park model project that I gave you. Bob
indicated that any violations that Ryan found out there are separate from this particular issue and need to
be enforced.
What we need to do at this point is determine what the implications are of allowing n RV n it p p ga o site �
permanently(e.g. septic,water, enforcement of temporary use). Before we can decide whether the
County can amend its regulations to allow this or not, we need to know that facts. Can you take a look at
this?
Thanks,
Barbara
Robert Fink- Urgent Communication /Robin Hood Village Page 2
individual lot.
MY SIMPLE REQUEST IS THAT YOU PLEASE LIFT THE "STOP WORK" ORDER WHILE WE
WORK THROUGH THESE OPTIONS. I spent$100,000 getting these RV's here so
that I could use them to serve Tourists in the busy season which is upon us.
Letting them sit idle will cause a large economic damage that I will not
be able to recoup.
I'm sure there are even more solutions that you and your staff can come up
with. If we have not come to a win-win solution in 90 days you could simply
reinstate a stop work order.
I'm traveling this week but would make special arrangements to come and meet
with you ASAP if it is required. I apologize for this being our first
communication.
Kell McAboy_- Re: Robin Hood Village Page 1
From: Kell McAboy
To: darin barry
Date: 6/5/2006 6:03:38 PM
Subject: Re: Robin Hood Village
Darin,
Thank you for your contact information. I appreciate your willingness to work together in a positive fashion.
This email is intended to address the issues you raised. Feel free to contact me to schedule a meeting if
you prefer.
I have forwarded the pictures you sent me to our Code Enforcement Officer, Stephanie Pawlawski in order
to help her determine which areas need to be restored.
Regarding the two new RVs, per the MCDC 1.04.347 Special Provisions.
RV parks shall comply with the following additional standards:
A. No recreational vehicle shall remain in the RV park for rental purposes or for a time period of more than
120 consecutive days and 180 days in a 360 day period (this standard applies to new occupants at
existing mobile home and recreational vehicle parks, and to new mobile home and recreational vehicle
parks). The RV park management shall maintain rental records identifying each RV and registered
occupants and shall present them to the county on written request. Failure to maintain or to present these
records on request shall be sufficient grounds to rescind the RV park permit.
Therefore, regardless of whether the Mason County Building Department would require a building permit
for the two new RVs, they are not allowed for rental purposes and shall be removed.
The 60 platted lots adjacent to the Robin Hood Village is zoned RR2.5 (Rural Residential 2.5)which would
allow mobile homes or park models. Standard building setbacks from property lines are 20 feet for side
and rear yards and 25 feet for front yards. Front and rear yard setbacks may be reduced as provided in
Section 1.05.034C. to a minimum of 10 feet and side yard setbacks may be reduced as provided in
Section 1.05.034D. to a minimum of 5 feet. Environmental Health Department issues aside, the planning
department allows one residence per legally established lot, as long as you can meet the setbacks as
stated above.
It is recommended that you have a pre-application meeting with all County departments if you have plans
to develop the property. That way all departments are present to address all the issues. The application is
online at: http://www.co.mason.wa.us/forms/Community Dev/presubmission.pdf
Again, please feel free to contact me to schedule a meeting if you feel that is necessary in addition to the
Pre-Application meeting.
Sincerely,
Kell McAboy, Land Use Planner
Mason County DCD
411 N. 5th/P.O. Box 279
Shelton, WA 98584
360.427.9670 ext. 363
>>> "darin barry" <darinbarry@hotmail.com> 06/04/06 8:51 PM >>>
To Kell McAboy Via Email & Fax#360-427-8425
Kell McAboy- Re: Robin Hood Village Page
order it cost us over a month by the time we were able to get the
sub-contractor back to finish removing the danger trees. I was glad that
your group rescinded the "stop work" order after you understood that we were
within our rights, and I only hope that we don't have to go through the same
process now regarding the ground vegetation that was under the danger trees.
Most of that"vegetation"was berry bushes, Ivy, Holly, and grass, all of
which was maintained with a weed wacker and a lawn mower on a regular basis.
Since we did not remove this vegetation, I'm sure you are aware that over
the next few weeks it will start to grow back. June, July, August, &
September is our busy season, and additional delays would cause significant
economic damage to our business.
Kell, my group is starting to feel as if your group is out to get us and
catch us doing something bad. We are in fact trying to take steps to lesson
the future environmental impact on the stream and the entire property. In
fact, as you know I am considering purchasing the 10 acres next to Robin
Hood so that we could focus our future development further away from the
stream. We asked you some very important questions last week regarding this
opportunity. (I've reattached the memo). If you are uncomfortable answering
the questions, perhaps you could refer me to someone within the County that
could help me.
In addition to the questions regarding density potential and clustering
which I outlined in the previous memo, I would also like to discuss a
section of the code titled "Stewardship Options and Incentives". "Open
Space Bonus", "Open Space Tax Assessment", "Density Credit", and
"Conservation Futures"(page 57 & 58)all seem like potential win-win ways
for us to work together to maximize the economic potential for the property
while at the same time maximizing the protection for the Critical Areas. I
hope that you will agree that working together on the big picture will
certainly have more productive and further reaching outcomes.
I'll look forward to a call at your earliest convenience to set up a meeting
with you or whoever you think I would be better referred to.
Thanks
Darin Barry
360-927-1105
CC: jmacfern@comcast.net; nedkjeldgaard@hotmail.com; Robert Fink; Stephanie
Pawlawski; Tami Griffey
(12/18/2007) Kell McAboy- Fwd. Robin Hood Village/Park Models Page 1
From: Barbara Robinson
To: Barbara Adkins; Kell McAboy
Date: 12/17/2007 4:13 PM
Subject: Fwd: Robin Hood Village/ Park Models
Have we made any progress on this?
Barbara Robinson
Community Development Director
Mason County
P.O. Box 279
Shelton,WA 98584
360-427-9670, Ext. 603
barbarr@co.mason.wa.us
>>> darin barry <darinbarrvCalhotmail.com> 12/17/2007 2:28 PM >>>
Barbara,your note(below)said you'd have an update for me?
I had an offer to purchase the Resort 2 weeks ago that fell through because there was no resolution to the Park Model
issue that was started almost a year and a half ago.
There are several ways to go forward that will allow the County to maintain it's existing codes or make very small changes
that will ensure that people do not"live"in RV parks,which is the intent of the existing code, it just is not written
effectively. As I'm sure you are aware,I don't want to have anyone"live" in my RV park,I'm trying to service the Tourism
market which is short stays,the exact type of stays that RV parks are supposed to service.
I still believe it would be beneficial for us to have a half hour meeting,just like I did with Mr. Dobey&Mr.Shelton. I'd
hate to see a solution that does not meet my needs,which will only result in more time and legal expense for me and for
the County.
Darin Barry
360-927-1105
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:39:06-0800> From: BarbarRCcbco.mason.wa.us>To: darinbarryCabhotmail.com> Subject: Re:
Park Model RV's/ Robin Hood Village> > Darin...we are working on this code issue, but have not come to any> final
determination on what changes if any should be made.We have one> of our planners working on this project, however,
she is out at a> shoreline hearing all day today,so I won't have an update for you until> tomorrow. > > Barbara
Robinson> Community Development Director> Mason County> P.O. Box 279> Shelton,WA 98584> 360-427-9670, Ext.
603> barbarr@co.mason.wa.us>
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January 27,2006
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My letter to you regarding the Browns' tenancy addresses the statutory background relevant to these
issues. Mr. Napper hopes and believes we can arrive at a mutually acceptable solution without court
action. Like the Browns' tenancy, and for the same reasons, Mr. Napper' tenancy falls under the
Mobile Home Landlord-Tenant Act.
The long term tenancy the Browns were able to secure in Lewis County includes a lot for Mr.Napper.
However, they cannot occupy the spaces until September 2006. Mr. Napper proposes that he stay in
Robin Hood Village under the current terms of his tenancy (Space rent of $325/month including
utilities, occupancy of Mr. Napper and Zack, and one dog, which is actually one of the dogs listed
under the Brown tenancy which apparently spends time at both units) through August 31, 2006.
Although this may not be an ideal solution for anyone (you would like Mr. Napper out sooner; he
planned to stay permanently), it is a good middle ground. Mr. Napper consistently pays his rent on
time and will continue to abide by park rules. Given his strong legal right to continued tenancy
through at least August 2006,his need for accommodation due to serious medical issues, and the lack
of any real loss to the park if he stays,this seems to be an imminently reasonable compromise.
Will you please contact me at your earliest convenience to discuss this offer so we can finalize the
terms in writing?Thank you.
Sincerely,
NORTHWEST JUSTICE PROJECT
Meagan J. M cKenzie
Attorney at Law
MJM:ch
cc: Steve Napper
FKell McAboy- RE: possible forest practice violation _- Page 1
From: "mereth" <mereth@skokomish.org>
To: "'mereth"' <mereth@skokomish.org>, "'Keith Dublanica"'<kdublanica@skokomish.org>,
"'Jack Turner"' <jturner@skokomish.org>, "'Jeff Heinis"' <jheinis@skokomish.org>, "'Jim Huinker"'
<jhuinker@skokomish.org>, "'Lyman Bullchild"' <Iyman@skokomish.org>, <tstrong@skokomish.org>
Date: 4/18/2006 12:34:12 PM
Subject: RE: possible forest practice violation
All,
We went out to the violation on Big Bend Creek behind the liquor store, but
didn't trespass. It looks like they have left a narrow single tree buffer
but removed the majority of it. Most of the trees should have been
protected by the county Critical Area Ordinance, which is 150 '. The
timber is still on the ground but there's a loader on site so it might be
removed soon. The stumps are still there but they have a cat, excavator and
dump truck there so they may be planning on stumping and grading the area as
well.
We spoke to the dump truck driver at the site who was going to haul away
some of the slash we think (he was not involved with any of the clearing).
He told us that the owner told them that he "had a permit and but it took a
while to get it". We told him it didn't look like they met the buffer
setback. He said 4 to 6 were danger trees. We told him there are
provisions (although weak) in the county rules to identify and document the
danger trees before they are harvested and that most of the trees look like
they would fall within the buffer.
I called Kell McAboy(Mason County Planner)who is also receiving this email
and recommended that a STOP WORK ORDER be issued so that no timber is
removed from the site until the situation can be further assessed. I
believe in this instance since the county took over forest practices
regulatory responsibilities from DNR in areas converting to another use or
within Urban Growth Areas (UGA's), that they are primarily the ones to
enforce this. Also the timber volume appears to exceed commercial
quantities (5000 board ft.)and looks to be of good quality. Perhaps the
State Department of Revenue who receives timber tax monies should be
involved. The state loses money on illegal timber harvests. I know one of
the Revenue officers and will give him a call.
Kell, for you I'm including below a recent email from a Skokomish DNR staff
that was just sent to me: Could you also forward this email to Michael
MacSems I left a voice mail with him as well.
I talked with an employee at Robin Hood about a month ago who informed me
that the land owner arrogantly told him had a lot of money and could do what
ever he wanted on his land. This was in reference to the new parking lot
but the employee alluded there may be more"development" and he was
concerned about the creek. Not sure if this is the same person but sounds
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