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MASON COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH
August 7,1997
The Mason County Board of Health was called to order at 10:01 a.m. by Chairperson
Cady with Board Members Bolender and Olsen in attendance. Dr. Mark E. Trucksses,
Health Officer was absent.
ATTENDANCE:
Mary Jo Cady, Chairperson
John Bolender, Board Member
Cindy Olsen, Board Member
Brad Banner, Director of Health Services
Steve Kutz, Personal Health Director
Mark Tompkins, Environmental Health Director
Cathi Engel, Executive Director of Community in Schools
Carolyn Jensen, Environmental Health Specialist/Water and Well Specialist
Steve Whitehouse, Attorney -at -Law
Diane Cooper, Taylor United
Tim Sheldon, Economic Development Council (EDC)
Drew Noble
Mary Dunbar, Reporter, Mason County Journal
Nancy Plews, Board Clerk
Sonja Rau, Board Transcriptionist
CORRESPONDENCE
1. Lorraine Coots submitted her resignation as Health Board Minutes
Transcriptionist. She now has a full-time position with the Prosecuting
Attorney's Office.
2. Mary M Knight School is putting on Peace Makers, dealing with conflicts.
The Commissioners and Board of Health were thanked for
their support of this program.
3. Steve Whitehouse submitted letter for Middleton Appeal on the Pittman
property septic system.
4. Letter from Washington State Department of Health, directive to Mark
Tompkins follow-up phone conversation on July 21, 1997 regarding
inspection of all but one of shoreline residences inside Lilliwaup Bay
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closure area. The Mason County staff will be proceeding with the survey.
Based on this level of infection coverage, the Washington State Board of
Health will begin marine quality monitoring: Samples will be collected from
established sites up to twice monthly. This intensified monitoring will be
continued through the following winter of '97. A determination to reopen
the area for commercial shellfish harvest will be based on Mason County's
onsite sewage system inspection report and the current water quality
information. In order to reopen the area they will need assurance that the
onsite sewage systems in the area are not the source of previously observed
high fecal coliform levels and water data that shows the area meets NSSP
water quality standards.
5. A letter from the State Department of Health to Brad Banner, dated July 9,
1997 stating that the Jones Creek Cove area of Pickering Passage will be
classified as Prohibited for commercial shellfish harvest.
6. A letter from the Washington State Department of Ecology stating that the
legislation that was passed in 1997 opens a new filing period for registering
claims for water rights. The new opening applies to water use that began
before the State Water Codes were adopted for surface water in 1917 and
ground water in 1945. The opening provides another opportunity for those
who did not file claims previously to do so. Once registered, the validity of
claim rights will be determined through the Washington State Superior Court
proceeding called The General Water Rights Education.
MINUTES APPROVAL,
The minutes from the last meeting were not ready.
ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES
October 2, 1997 meeting had been canceled but there is work that needs to be done.
Chairperson Cady entered a motion to schedule an October, Board of Health meeting on
October 9th at 10:00 a.m.. Board Member Olsen moved that this meeting be scheduled
October 9th at 10:00 a.m.. Board Member Bolender seconded. Motion passed with
Ayes. B: Yes; C:Yes; O:Yes.
Change the November 6th meeting to November 5th. Board Member Bolender moved
that the Thursday, November 6th meeting be canceled and rescheduled on Wednesday,.
November 5th. Board Member Olsen seconded. Motion passed with Ayes. B: Yes; C:
Yes; 0: Yes.
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HEALTH OFFICER'S REPORT
Steve Kutz, Personal Health Director, gave a report from Dr. Trucksses who was absent.
For the month of July there were 3 cases of meningitis, which required follow-up. One
was probable viral meningitis which was not followed -up; one was a case of listeria
meningitis, which required treatment, but no follow-up on contact; one was a case of
Neisseria meningitis, where a Mason County resident died in transit to Saint Peter's
Hospital. Family members required cophylactis.
There was one case of Campylobacter and one case of Salmonella and two cases 'of
active Tuberculosis. The one case of Tuberculosis is confirmed to be microbacterium,
positive by smear. We are waiting for the cultures and the individual is responding to
therapy, so it is most likely Mycobacterium tuberculosis. Also, contact a national chest
x-ray that we believe also is Tuberculosis, and that has not been confirmed with culture
yet. We have two people under treatment and are attempting to follow-up on the contact.
It is not as easy as we would like it to be as the people we are working with are Hispanic
and there is the language barrier and distrust of the Health Department or anybody in a
position of authority.
For the previous month of June there were 25 cases of Tuberculosis, in total, in the State.
To put in perspective for Mason County - two cases in a month is the same number that
Pierce County had in June and King County had 10 in the month of June.
Chairperson Cady stated that there was an article in the July 11, 1997 New Tribune from
the Center For Disease Control in Atlanta. It says that 2 people have died from human
plagues last year were likely infected by prairie dogs. The deaths are among five cases
of human plague in 1996. The Center For Disease Control Prevention said human
plague can be treated with antibiotics if caught early. An 18-year-old man from
Flagstaff, Arizona died in August after he was bitten by fleas while walking through a
colony of prairie dogs in the northeast region of the state. The same month a Colorado
girl contracted the plague. She lived near an area where a lot of prairie dogs had died
The CDC believes she got the plague from her cat who became infected by the prairie
dogs. Cat can catch the disease from infected fleas of rodents and pass it on when the
bite, scratch or lick humans. Since 1947, there have been 390 cases of human plague,
resulting in 60 deaths. Most cases are from Arizona, Colorado, California, and New
Mexico.
Chairperson Cady stated that she feels people should be aware when they travel with pets
to other states they can bring home things they are not use to.
Chairperson Cady stated that she is concerned about all the mixed information that is
coming out from the county on bats and that we need to take a stand on this - they are
either good or they are bad. She feels that the Board of Health is responsible for getting
out information on the bats and there is a need to see what the message should be and get
it out.
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ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH
PUBLIC HEARING: ON -SITE REGULATION REVISION
Director Brad Banner stated that the Mason County Health Services regulates four
different classes of contractors that are involved in on -site sewage disposal. We certify
pumpers, installers, designers, and maintenance specialist. The proposed change in the
regulation is to eliminate the requirements for bonding and/or liability insurance from
people in these levels of contractors. The department and contractors have long been
concerned about the burden on the contractors and consumers. If they were effective,
they would be left but they are not effective. If you have a bond for a contractor the
home owner or the department can't just go out and collect the money on that bond, they
have to go to court and the judge decides who is at fault and what the penalties are. We
have never collected on a bond because it is not an easy process. Chairperson Cady
stated that they weren't doing the work for the county anyway and Brad Banner, Director
of Health Services concurred. Director Banner stated that he had done research as to
what the neighboring counties are doing and also talked to the Department of Labor and
Industry. First he talked with Kevin and also with what the State requires.
The State on -site sewage regulation does not have requirements for bonding or financial
assurance for contractors. They leave that to the local government. The Department of
Labor and Industry does not regulate pumpers, designers, or operation/maintenance
specialist; they do regulate installers. They require an installer to have a $120,000
liability insurance and $4,000 bond in order to have a specialty contractors license. We
are proposing to change that or just simply to make a requirement for installers to have a
specialty contractors license, which is a State Law. In so doing, it will insure that they
have a liability insurance and a bond. Kitsap County does have bonding for each one of
their contractors and they have had confusion in the department about what to do with
them and how to apply them. They are presently working on an interpretation of their
requirements. Thurston County has no bonding requirements or contractors licensing
requirements for pumpers, designers, or maintenance specialist - just the contractor's
license for the installers. What we are proposing is in Sections 8, 9, 10, and 11 of the
handout. Sections 18 is the Repealer and Section 19 is the Effective Date. The proposal
is in to the Advisory Committee and has their unanimous approval. Board Member
Bolender noted that it did not change the public's course of action incase they need to do
that. Chairperson Cady stated that people who are designing systems have to pass the
Board of Health scrutiny before they can get the permit. Board Member Bolender made
a motion that the Revised On -site Regulations for Sections, 8, 9, 10, 11, 18, and 19 be
adopted as proposed. Board Member Olsen seconded. Motion passed with Ayes. B:
Yes; C: Yes; 0: Yes.
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SCHEDULE APPEAL HEARING
Brad Banner stated that a schedule for the appeal hearing for an on -site sewage permit
and design, that the Health Department had approved, is being appealed by Hugh and
Gay Middleton. The property is owned by Mark Pittman. It is located on Robillards
Cove Road off of the Green Road in the Pickering Passage area. Attorney Steve
Whitehouse represents the Pittmans and Attorney David Middleton represents the
Middletons.
Mark Tompkins stated that he had talked to both attorneys. He stated that Mr. Middleton
could not make it to either September 4th or October 9th. Mr. Whitehouse can not make
it for the October 9th. Director Tompkins stated, that in talking with Mr. Whitehouse, it
was suggested that some trials are scheduled on certain dates but may not occur on that
date but are bumped forward. Chairperson Cady asked about evenings, and Mr.
Tompkins stated that he had not talked evenings with any of them. Mr. Tompkins did
state that they were all available in November.
Attorney Steve Whitehouse stated that because this is probably going to be a two hour or
more process, he suggested that more than one trial date be set so there would be
backups. Chairperson Cady asked what the Mason County regulations were for appeals
and Mr. Whitehouse stated that there are no regulations for this. Mr. Whitehouse stated
that evening would be all right for him and he had no problem setting a special date.
Board Member Bolender suggested having it in the afternoon after a regular meeting.
Board Member Olsen moved that the appeal hearing for Hugh and Gay Middleton versus
Mark Pittman be scheduled for October 9th, 1997 at 1:30 p.m.. Board Member Bolender
seconded. Motion passed with Ayes. B: Yes; C: Yes; 0: Yes.
Chairperson Cady asked Attorney Steve Whitehouse if they would know at the 10:00
a.m. meeting whether or not the appeal hearing was going to happen. His reply was yes.
He said he would get in touch with Mr. Middleton.
REVISED BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW POLICY
Mark Tompkins, Environmental Health Director, stated that he had copies of a Revised
Requirements For Obtaining a Building Permit Approval through Environmental Health.
These were handed out by Mr. Tompkins.
Mr. Tompkins stated that this policy replaces a current 6 stage policy. He stated that they
had revised out two pages and created a flow chart. Three things we looked at to approve
it were: 1. The plot land, which would agree with the building permit and septic records.
2. The water accuracy is demonstrated and that applies to new construction.
Existing homes, replacements are exempt from that regulation.
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3. Demonstrate septic system adequacy. For a new septic system you have to
have an approved design that matches the plot line.
The flow chart deals, strictly, with existing systems. These are system that have been
installed previously. We have worked with the shoreline planners and community to
develop and change requirements as needed and we have revised them again. We look at
two things when it comes to evaluating existing grade build. The first thing we look at is
where it is located. We have that broken into three different locations: shoreline,
non -shoreline, and North Bay sewer district. We have changed the shoreline to be
defined as, systems located within 100 feet of a regulated shoreline. That is consistent
with a horizontal setback within the on -site sewage regulations. Non -shoreline is -
existing systems located greater than 100 feet from regulated shoreline. In the North
Bay sewer district -properties located within the boundaries of the North Bay sewer
district.
The Federal proposal is further broken down: expansion, non -expansion (which applies
for all three types of system locations). For the shoreline location it is broken down to
low -impact expansion and repairs. The concern here is the cabins that are on existing
drainfields of 50 years ago, which are now becoming full-time mansions without the
system being evaluated. This policy was developed under that guidance on the shoreline
planners and the community on how to evaluate those systems, so they are appropriate
for that type of use. The flow chart allows the staff to determine the location of the
septic system, the type of proposal, and then to determine the requirements. It allows it
to flow, without public disclosure, to find out what the requirements are and to have the
existing system evaluated to meet those requirements.
The question was asked by Board Member John Bolender if there is state requirements
for water adequacy and septic system adequacy as preconditions to issuing a permit? He
was told that it is mandated by the state and the growth management act and that it is
actually on the issuance of the building permit. It was stated that a person cannot occupy
a home until it has had final inspection and final approval and sign off on their building
permit. It was also stated that the a person could occupy a house before water adequacy,
by going through the waiver process.
Chairperson Cady stated that this is much more understandable and has come along ways
since they looked at the first document.
Board Member Bolender felt it was cumbersome and restrictive to require those things in
advance. He felt that a person was not going to move into their house until they signed
off approval on the building permit and he felt they were adding a cost to someone who
wanted to build a house over a period of time and not move into it for several years but
they do have a well and septic system. Board Member Olsen stated that they do have that
opportunity through the waiver process to construct the house and drill the well later as
long as they have a letter of intent from a well driller that says there is water in the area
and there is no problem; on the septic system it would be an approved design.
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Board Member Bolender moved for approval of the revised building permit requirements
for obtaining an environmental health approval. Board Member Olsen seconded. The
motion was passed with two Ayes, Board Member Bolender abstaining. B: abstaining;
C: Yes; 0: Yes.
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH/MASON COUNTY JOINT PLAN OF OPERATION
Brad Banner, Health Service Director, stated this is an item that was tabled two months
ago. It is a joint plan of operation between Mason County Health Department and the
State Department of Health. The regulation of public water system is under the authority
of Washington Department of Health and there is a provision in the regulation for them
to contract with the local health jurisdiction to perform all or part of their work. This has
been in effect since the state regulations back in late 1970's. Mason County Health
Department (actually General Services at that time), has a contract with Washington
Department of Social and Health Services (at that time), for looking at the new design of
the small public water systems. At the time, there was Class One, Two, Three, and Four.
Designated Class Four being between two and nine connections; The Class Three was
transit things, business that didn't have an effect; Class Two was the ten to ninety-nine;
Class One was one hundred or more. Mason County has a contract in place to do water
connection according to class. There have been some changes over a period of time.
Washington State Department of Health has adopted the EPA designations: Group A and
Group B water systems, which is the basis for our water systems now. Group B is two
through fourteen connections. Group A is most of the larger water systems and
restraurants.
Director Banner stated that what they would like to do is update the contract with the
State. He directed the Board to look on page 10 of the handout which contained a table,
which is really the heart of this and shows who is responsible for what part. He
introduced Carolyn Jensen, Department of Health water person expert, who would
answer any questions.
Chairperson Cady commented that the comment "that we contract with them to do their
work" and was Class B's considered their work? Director Banner answered that it would
be if we didn't agree to do them ourselves. He also stated that there were two counties in
the state that let the State do them. They are Spokane and Jefferson Counties. The
problem with leaving it to the State is local communication and local control over it.
Plus, it cost alot more. These two counties are trying to get into the business of doing it
themselves because this is a service to their local residents.
Chairperson Cady asked how much of this is Carolyn Jensen's work load. Director
Banner stated that this is only a portion of her time. Chairperson Cady asked how much
we are reimbursed by the State for that? Director Banner stated that we charge the
customer a hook-up fee for that. Chairperson Cady asked where the satellite managers
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come in? Director Banner stated that they are regulated at the local level and we have
the same requirements as the State does, it has nothing to do with the contract with the
State but is one of the State requirements. Chairperson Cady asked if the satellite
managers picked up any of the workload that Carolyn Jensen does? Director Banner
stated that the satellite managers should make Carolyn Jensen's job easier because the
theory is that you have professionals who know how to handle and operate water systems,
and you don't have a small group of neighbors handling a water system and nobody really
having any control over it, nor maintaining it, and no way to distribute the cost if it
breaks down. That is what the object of the satellite managers is. Chairperson Cady
stated that she gets calls from people with the little water systems who are afraid of
coming under the satellite water system because of cost. Carolyn Jensen stated that it is
not a requirement for an existing water system to have a satellite manager. Director
Banner stated that the PUD is handling some of these smaller neighborhood water
systems. Chairperson Cady asked if Arcadia was doing any of this? Carolyn Jensen
stated that Arcadia is still an approved satellite agency and has sold a number of their
water systems to Tall Timbers Water Company. Tall Timbers is seeking approval as a
satellite management agency - they are not an approved satellite management agency.
Arcadia is still on the list.
Director Banner stated that the downside to the satellite managers is that it is required by
the State and you have to get them. People go into the business and water systems
become a commodity that get traded and sold and you lose local control over your own
water system.
The question was asked that in the counties that are doing this themselves do they charge
a fee to the users. The State charges quite a bit higher fee and because the Group B water
systems are not high priority with the State they put those aside until they can get to
them, which is much longer than what the counties can do, stated Carolyn Jensen.
Chairperson Cady asked what other changes there were to this contract. Director Banner
said that what they would like to change concerns in the sanitary survey of food
establishments. Mark Tompkins has been working with the State on a strictly health
oriented criteria for these water systems, to review them for water adequacy for these
food establishments. You will see that written in here with that written on the chart with
DOH/MCHS*. The star* says they are a food service/public water system. Carolyn
Jensen stated that this was only approval of the water not the water system. Chairperson
Cady asked if this was also for quanity as well as quality? Mark Tompkins stated that
this is public health oriented so it would be quality of the water. The quantity of water
would come into play if there was multiple connections: multiple homes and a restaurant
location and if they are looking at expansion. Chairperson Cady asked if the restaurants
weren't already required to turn in water samples. Carolyn Jensen said the problem is the
outlying regions of the county, where there are springs and the wells have not been
looked at. Mark Tompkins stated that the problem is that their are restaurants which do
not turn in samples and may have springs instead of wells. Chairperson Cady asked how
they get their permits? Director Banner and Mr Tompkins answered that they are
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existing and they only look at the food handling practices and have never looked at the
water source. Chairperson Cady asked if this would put them on a water testing and
sampling schedule? The answer was yes and when they go out for food handling they
will also perform this task too.
Chairperson Cady asked how long this contract was for and she was told until it was
revised again.
Board Member Bolender moved that the Chairperson be authorized to sign the Joint Plan
of Operation between the State Department of Health and the Mason County Health
Services for the regulation of public water systems located within Mason County. Board
Member Olsen seconded. Motion passed with Ayes. B: Yes; C: Yes; 0: Yes.
PERSONAL HEALTH ISSUES
COUNTY FAIR
The Board of Health was notified that The Health Department Information Booth
received the President's Choice Awards for the largest variety of information. The booth
was shared with the Dental Coalition and The Community Schools Outreach Workers.
Cathie Engel was introduced as the new director of the Community Schools Outreach
Workers. The Dental Coalition passed out approximately 750 pre -made packets of
information and supplies to those who visited the booths. Alot of information was passed
out.
Chairperson Cady welcomed Cathie Engel.
TAYLOR UNITED
Diane Cooper, Taylor United representative, requested help from the Board of Health in
obtaining a water right from the Department of Ecology by notification to the
Department of Ecology of sanitation needs based on inadequate water quanity at the
existing site. Diane Cooper provided the Board of Health with a draft to help guide the
Board where it should go. Board Member Bolender asked if with out the increased water
flow they were not able to meet the States increased health standards? Ms. Cooper
replied that was correct and this was on the existing site. The State is requiring that they
update it and they have to notify the State how this is to be done.
Chairperson Cady asked Director Banner to work with Diane Cooper and draft a letter
from the Board of Health to send to the State, and also a copy to the Governor and to the
Mason County Board of Health. Chairperson Cady also stated that they would be glad to
help anyway they can.
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PUBLIC COMMENT
DREW NOBLE
Drew Noble stated that he feels that when people get there Class A septic system permit
they should also have to have a water accuracy at that time. He stated that the problem is
that when people get there septic system permit and plan to build in five years they often
begin using the water system without an accuracy done and are prone to the State not
accepting the system because of accuracy. The State is coming out with ERU
(Equivalent Residential Use) that will be used for new water rights. ERU is based on
peak daily use. These are due out this February, but probably won't be out until next
February. They are coming down on design standards and regulations. He feels that the
public water systems needs to know what is coming.
He is recommending that the water accuracy be required at the time the septic system
permit is obtained, rather than be part of the building permit process.
Mr. Noble was invited as a guest to present his proposal to the Drinking Water Advisory
Committee, which is composed of designer, well drillers, water industry people, satellite
managers, and citizens. Carolyn Jensen staffs the committee.
TIM SHELDON, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL
Tim Sheldon, of the Economic Development Council spoke in favor of Diane Cooper,
Taylor United. He stated that he would be glad to submit a letter as a Representative of
the State of Washington.
MEETING ADJOURED
The Mason County Board of Health meeting was adjourned at 11:19 a.m..
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MASON COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH
aNS
John Bolender, Board Member
Cindy Olse . , Board Member
Respectfully submitted by: